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Modern Mid-Century mélangé avec Boho Chic! Cabine du dôme géodésique, marchez jusqu'à la ville!

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Avis voyageurs

10 sur 10
Exceptionnel
3 chambres2 salles de bain ou plus8 personnes249.7 m²

Équipements populaires

  • Parking disponible
  • Sèche-linge
  • Lave-linge
  • Petit déjeuner disponible
  • Cheminée
  • Barbecue

Découvrir la zone

Map
Idyllwild-Pine Cove, CA
  • Montagnes de San Jacinto
    ‪1 min à pied‬
  • Idyllwild Nature Center
    ‪10 min à pied‬
  • Parc Idyllwild
    ‪17 min à pied‬
  • Palm Springs, CA (PSP-Aéroport international de Palm Springs)
    ‪73 min en voiture‬

Chambres et lits

3 chambres (8 personnes)

Chambre 1

2 lits 1 place

Chambre 2

1 grand lit

Chambre 3

1 grand lit

Chambre 4

1 très grand lit

2 salles de bain, 1 WC avec lavabo

Salle de bain 1

Toilettes · Douche uniquement · Baignoire à jets

Salle de bain 2

Toilettes · Douche uniquement

Salle de bain 3

Toilettes

Espaces

Terrasse en bois ou patio
Véranda ou lanai
Cuisine
Balcon
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À propos de cet hébergement

Modern Mid-Century mélangé avec Boho Chic! Cabine du dôme géodésique, marchez jusqu'à la ville!

Construit sur mesure, Bunkminster Fuller a inspiré la maison de dôme géodésique sur plus de trois acres. Transportez-vous dans le temps dans un style bohème cool! Le dôme est une spacieuse maison de 3 chambres, 2. 5 salles de bain avec une vue imprenable, une cuisine ouverte, de grands plafonds géodésiques avec des puits de lumière triangulaires et un bébé piano à queue. Incroyable cheminée en trois dimensions conçue par l'artiste! La suite principale est rustique, shabby chic, a une grande baignoire jacuzzi avec de nouveaux planchers et luminaires et un dressing et un coin salon. La salle de bain des invités a été entièrement rénovée ainsi qu'un nouveau travail de peinture intérieure dans toute la maison. La cuisine ouverte est équipée de tout ce dont vous avez besoin pour cuisiner un repas de famille. L'îlot de cuisine peut accueillir quatre personnes et la table de la salle à manger peut accueillir huit personnes. A l'étage, deux chambres confortables avec salle de bain récemment rénovée, nouvelle douche et un loft / bibliothèque pour se détendre. Le salon au rez-de-chaussée comprend une télévision de 58 pouces et un grand foyer au bois. Détendez-vous ou dîner à l'extérieur avec votre personne préférée, ou un cocktail sur le pont enveloppant. Ensuite, faites une courte promenade d'un quart de mile en ville pour visiter les galeries d'art, les restaurants ou écouter un concert de musiciens locaux.
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Responsable de l’hébergement

Ida

Langues parlées

Anglais

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Services et équipements

Cuisine
Lave-linge
Sèche-linge
Wi-Fi haut débit gratuit
Espace extérieur
Petit déjeuner disponible

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Règlement intérieur

Arrivée après 16 h 00
Âge minimum pour la location : 25 ans
Départ avant 11 h 00
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Enfants

Enfants autorisés : de 0 à 17 ans
It is child friendly, not child proof!
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Événements

Événements autorisés
Only with permission from owner.
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Animaux domestiques

Animaux de compagnie non autorisés
No exceptions due to severe allergies.
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Fumeurs/non-fumeurs

Hébergement non-fumeurs
There is no smoking allowed

Informations importantes

À savoir absolument

Cet hébergement est géré par un hôte privé (une partie n’agissant pas dans le cadre de son commerce, son entreprise ou sa profession). La législation européenne relative aux droits des consommateurs ne s’appliquera pas à votre réservation, y compris le droit de rétractation. Toutefois, la politique d’annulation définie par l’hôte privé couvrira votre réservation. Les articles 1100 à 1386-1 du Code civil français s’appliqueront. https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/id/LEGISCTA000032040794/
Des frais pour toute personne supplémentaire peuvent être facturés et dépendent de la politique de l'hébergement
Une pièce d'identité officielle avec photo et un dépôt de garantie en espèces, par carte de crédit ou par carte de débit, peuvent être demandés à l'arrivée pour couvrir tous frais imprévus
Les demandes spéciales, qui ne peuvent pas être garanties, sont soumises à disponibilité à l'arrivée et peuvent entraîner des frais supplémentaires
Les fêtes et les événements de groupe sont autorisés sur place
Note du propriétaire : Only with permission from owner.
L'hôte a indiqué que l'hébergement était équipé d'un détecteur de monoxyde de carbone
L'hôte a indiqué que l'hébergement était équipé d'un détecteur de fumée
Cet hébergement comprend les dispositifs de sécurité suivants : un extincteur, une trousse de secours et un verrou de sûreté
Numéro d’enregistrement de l’hébergement : RVC-0259

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À propos du quartier

Idyllwild

L'hébergement cette cabane vous attend pour un séjour exceptionnel à Idyllwild, plus précisément dans le centre-ville, à la montagne. Vous êtes un voyageur avide de culture ? Dirigez-vous vers l'emblématique Palm Springs Art Museum. Vous préférez admirer la beauté naturelle des lieux ? À vous les sympathiques Indian Canyon et Palm Canyon. En voyage avec toute la tribu ? Envisagez de passer par les fantastiques Idyllwild Nature Center et Camelot Park Family Center. Participez aux balades à la découverte de la faune et aux séances d'observation des oiseaux proposés dans les environs afin d'admirer la faune majestueuse de la région.
Carte
Idyllwild-Pine Cove, CA

À proximité

  • Montagnes de San Jacinto - 1 min à pied - 0.0 km
  • Parc d'État Mount San Jacinto - 1 min à pied - 0.1 km
  • Idyllwild Nature Center - 10 min à pied - 0.9 km
  • Parc Idyllwild - 17 min à pied - 1.5 km
  • Palm Springs Aerial Tramway (tramway aérien) - 61 min en voiture - 77.8 km

Comment se déplacer

  • Gare de Palm Springs - 53 min en voiture
  • Palm Springs, CA (PSP-Aéroport international de Palm Springs) - 73 min en voiture

Restaurants

  • ‪Mountain Center Cafe - ‬7 min en voiture
  • ‪Idyllwild Brewpub - ‬12 min à pied
  • ‪Idyllwild Pizza Co. - ‬11 min à pied
  • ‪Red Kettle - ‬8 min à pied
  • ‪Lumber Mill Bar & Grill - ‬7 min à pied

Foire aux questions

Les animaux domestiques sont-ils admis dans l'hébergement Modern Mid-Century mélangé avec Boho Chic! Cabine du dôme géodésique, marchez jusqu'à la ville! ?

Non, les animaux de compagnie ne sont pas admis au sein de l'hébergement.

Quelle est l'heure d'arrivée à l'hébergement Modern Mid-Century mélangé avec Boho Chic! Cabine du dôme géodésique, marchez jusqu'à la ville! ?

Les arrivées sont prévues à partir de 16 h 00.

Quelle est l'heure de départ de l'hébergement Modern Mid-Century mélangé avec Boho Chic! Cabine du dôme géodésique, marchez jusqu'à la ville! ?

Le départ a lieu à 11 h 00.

Où se situe l'hébergement Modern Mid-Century mélangé avec Boho Chic! Cabine du dôme géodésique, marchez jusqu'à la ville! ?

Cette cabane à l'atmosphère familiale à Idyllwild se trouve à la montagne, juste à quelques pas de sites comme Montagnes de San Jacinto et Parc d'État Mount San Jacinto. Idyllwild Nature Center et Parc Idyllwild se trouvent également à moins de 2 km de distance.

Avis

10

Exceptionnel

Les avis sont présentés par ordre chronologique, ils sont également soumis à une procédure de contrôle et vérifiés sauf indication contraire.
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Note des voyageurs de 10 (Excellent), d’après 42 avis sur 44.
Note des voyageurs de 8 (Bien), d’après 2 avis sur 44.
Note des voyageurs de 6 (Satisfaisant), d’après 0 avis sur 44.
Note des voyageurs de 4 (Médiocre), d’après 0 avis sur 44.
Note des voyageurs de 2 (Horrible), d’après 0 avis sur 44.

9,4/10

Propreté

9,6/10

Arrivée

9,6/10

Communication

9,6/10

Emplacement

9,4/10

Exactitude de l’annonce

Avis

10/10 Excellent

Patty L.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Christmas Vacation

The Dome house was so welcoming for our holiday away, even had a decorated Christmas tree! We did a lot of cooking and the kitchen had everything we needed and was perfect for many cooks in the kitchen together. It was a short walk to the town which is a wonderful, interesting, friendly mountain town. There were 5 of us and we had plenty of room to relax and have quiet time. When the sun was shining on the porch we were even able to have Christmas lunch there. Being a Dome house voices carry but Ida, the host, thought of everything and had earplugs available for anyone who needed them. We had a wonderful time and look forward to visiting again. Thanks Ida for your hospitality!
Séjour de 3 nuits en décembre 2023

10/10 Excellent

Bari T.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

The Dome for the WIN

This stay was truly incredible. Ida was extremely communicative, thorough, and accommodating. The personal touches were so thoughtful-- she left a bottle of wine and a card for each child who was supposed to stay (sadly the other family couldn't make it due to illness). You can tell she takes great pride in the Dome. It was in impeccable shape. The acoustics were incredible! And the place had so many games, toys, books, and information about the area. The fireplace was cozy as were the beds, couches, and seats. My 14 month old and 3.5 year old had a BLAST. And it was so close to town. The kitchen was also very well equipped- and spacious! The Dome truly was the perfect stay! One recommendation for those with small kids- if you want to walk to town, I would note that there are no sidewalks so probably best to do it in daylight (we sadly tried in the dark, which was unwise). We would absolutely stay here again. We loved this home. You must stay-- you will not regret it.
Séjour de 2 nuits en février 2023

10/10 Excellent

keith r.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

A Unique Experience Great for Families

We stayed here for three nights with another family with three kids in total. The dome has everything you need for cooking and entertaining, this place is highly recommended.
Séjour de 3 nuits en mars 2022

10/10 Excellent

Christine P.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Dome family getaway

The dome has all the amenities. Close to town. Lots of hiking trails near by. House was cozy and warm. We had a wonderful time.
Séjour de 2 nuits en janvier 2022

10/10 Excellent

Michail F.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

it was great

The house is unique and memorable. Great views. Ida was excellent. One thing to keep in mind, it had no air condition, but the fans and opening Windows made it fine.
Séjour de 2 nuits en juillet 2021

10/10 Excellent

James M.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

A beautiful stay in a beautiful home.

First, Ida was amazing. Great about communicating, super helpful with suggestions and needs. She was always kind during correspondence and never made me feel like I was asking too many questions. The house had everything you could need for cooking, which was a lovely surprise. As someone who rents a lot, and for over twenty years, this was the best experience in Idyllwild I’ve ever had.
Séjour de 3 nuits en avril 2021

10/10 Excellent

RODOLFO R.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Excellent Getaway

The Dome was very impressive. Besides being clean, Ida had setup some treats for the family. The mauve colored carpet was unique, however, it was the acoustics of the dome that were really cool. We really liked all the details of the interior design, from the vintage sideboards to the 3D picture frame. It is close to the town center, about a 12 min walk. Overall, it was a much needed getaway. Highly recommend.
Séjour de 3 nuits en avril 2021

10/10 Excellent

Elana H.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Relaxing get-away

This is a great property for family, friends, or a solo retreat. Very clean, spacious, nice touches, and has everything you need. Loved the loft and reading nook. Loved the big screen TV. Loved the soaking tub and rainfall shower. I had a great stay, very relaxing, comfortable, and didn't want to leave. I will definitely be back. Ida is a great host, very thoughtful and attentive, and helpful.
Séjour de 3 nuits en mars 2021

10/10 Excellent

George G.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Ida's Dome

This place is amazing! Besides the unique architecture, it is close to town and you can walk everywhere. Ida is incredible and really makes you feel welcome- especially the best banana bread in the world! Great birthday celebration and we will be back!
Séjour de 2 nuits en janvier 2021

10/10 Excellent

Stacy W.

Les points faibles : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Dome Visit November 2020

My family (2 adults, 3 teens) had a pleasant stay at the Dome. We enjoyed the sunsets and the pleasant town of Idyllwild. The town was mostly open for outdoor dining and most people were wearing masks when out and about. The Dome House was nicely appointed for our family. We enjoyed the funky blend of old and new furnishings. Everything we needed for cooking etc. was provided and then some. The downstairs master bedroom was fantastic for my husband and I while the 3 kids really enjoyed having the upstairs bedrooms and the loft area to write and do school work. The host Ida, was so helpful and responsive. She welcomed us generously and made us feel very comfortable.
Séjour de 3 nuits en novembre 2020

10/10 Excellent

David M.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Beautiful property in an incredible town!

So fun! You should rent this place if you are reading this!
Séjour de 2 nuits en septembre 2020

10/10 Excellent

Nila B., San Diego, USA

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Unforgettable Mountain retreat - perfect for all ages

We spend a short 2 nights (our only mistake was not booking for longer) at Ida's lovely mountain retreat. I was traveling with my three young children, husband and 80 year old father. Everyone in our family was so entertained, comfortable and happy in the dome. The kids LOVED the foosbal table and games, my dad loved all the books, we had so much room to spread out and be comfortable. It was a rather hot two days so we really enjoyed all the time we spent retreating in the dome. The kitchen is SO well equipped I was able to comfortably cook all our meals since eating out these days is not so appealing... Ida was only a text away for any questions that we had and she even left a few amenities for us that were so special (banana bread :-)! We hope to return. Thank you for an unfortugetable short but sweet stay.
Séjour de 2 nuits en juillet 2020

10/10 Excellent

Abby B., San Diego, California

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Unique, comfortable, well-equipped

The Dome is just as beautiful and unique as it looks in the photos. Ida was very kind and communicative. The Dome had many extras we weren't expecting like hotel robes, a fully stocked kitchen and lots of little touches. We thought it was a perfect location in Idyllwild, near to town and trails. We noticed parts of town near Strawberry Creek had lots of mosquitoes and flies, but this property did not. We did see many birds and small wildlife from the windows and decks. As far as bedroom layout, I always look at reviews to get a sense for our group. The downstairs master suite was large, you could even have small children stay with you. It is able to be dark and very quiet. The two upstairs bedrooms are super fun with their unusual shape and one of a kind acoustics. If you are very light or sound sensitive, you might prefer the master downstairs, as there aren't individual ceilings to each room, but my kids loved the way the acoustics made hide and seek extra interesting.
Séjour de 4 nuits en juin 2020

10/10 Excellent

Sascha L.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Magical Getaway

We had a lovely time in the Dome! The small touches from Ida (flowers, oranges, banana bread) made us feel like we were at home. The Dome is spacious and has great acoustics for music and movie lovers. The kitchen was fully stocked for cooking, the beds were comfortable, and the house was immaculate. We couldn’t ask for a nicer host- Ida was responsive to all of our questions. Overall, we would highly recommend the Dome and we will definitely be back!

10/10 Excellent

Tim L., San Diego, CA, USA

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

Thoughtfully appointed and charming

We had a nice couple of days enjoying such a unique home, so thoughtfully outfitted for its guests. One note though if you’re eager to try out the piano and the unique acoustics- The piano was unplayable ( beyond out of tune) sadly as we were anxious to try it out with the super fun acoustics. Hopefully they’ll get it tuned. Or give a free stay to someone willing to tune it. Then I would go back!
Séjour de 2 nuits en janvier 2020

10/10 Excellent

Emery M.

Les points forts : Propreté, arrivée, communication, emplacement et exactitude de l’annonce

What a gem!

We absolutely loved our stay and plan to come back for more! The house has an old school yet modern feel to it, which is quite refreshing in the mountain cabin world. The beds were comfortable, the bathrooms were updated and clean. Ida was wonderful to work with. She even helped me surprise my boyfriend with a local bakers birthday cake. It was perfect! So good and was adorable. Thank you!
Séjour de 2 nuits en décembre 2019

10/10 Excellent

David H.

Amazing property!

Have stayed in many VRBO properties for past 25 years and this was definitely one of the nicest ones yet. Ida was amazing to work with, always being available to answer any questions we had prior to booking the property and during our entire stay. She went above and beyond to make our stay memorable. In addition, Ida provided very thoughtful personal touches including: delicious banana bread, coffee beans, bottle of wine and a pantry stocked with many spices for any type of cooking. The location was ideal, being close to the quaint town of Idyllwild and many hiking trails. Would definitely stay again.
Séjour de 3 nuits en mars 2019

10/10 Excellent

Daniel T., Los Angeles, CA

Relaxing trip with friends

Ida's dome was the perfect location for my trip to Idyllwild with two friends. I visit the hill regularly and wanted to introduce them to the hiking and the town. The dome had plenty of room for us to spread out, including a massive and private master bedroom. The upstairs bedrooms are loud if everyone isn't going to bed at the same time, but Ida is clear about that and provides earplugs for guests. The kitchen was big, convenient, and well stocked. We cooked a meal and made drinks. Ida provided fresh fruit and banana bread to get us started on our vaca. The dome itself is in great condition and is a unique place to hang out and enjoy. We made a roaring fire and had fun exploring the strange acoustics that allow you to talk (or play music) in one room and hear it crystal-clear in another. The dome was also a quick drive (and a 10-15 minute walk) to town. I can't wait to find time to come back and visit the dome!
Séjour de 2 nuits en janvier 2019

10/10 Excellent

Voyageur vérifié

Beautiful, welcoming, felt like home. Definitely going again!

My husband and I, along with our 2 adult children and 2 friends stayed at The Dome January 2-4. We arrived to the homeowner bringing us fresh flowers and freshly baked banana bread (that was sooo good!).The architecture of the Dome is unique, and we loved the open floor plan. We knew that the acoustics were such that if you were downstairs sitting on the couch you could hear everything, even whispers, from the upstairs bedrooms. But we were prepared for that and it actually was a funny aspect of the stay as we used it to play tricks on each other! The homeowner provided ear plugs in case we needed a bit more quiet. The location of the Dome was perfect: close to town yet secluded enough that we felt like we were out in the woods alone. Parking was easy with plenty of space. Beds were comfortable and cozy with lots of blankets. Bathrooms were well stocked with modern amenities. Kitchen was fully stocked with every plate/bowl/cookie sheet/ pot/pan/ etc. etc. that we needed. Nice new oven and range that worked very well. Nice dining area to seat us all. Living room had plenty of seating and a nice large TV. There were a ton of games and books in the amazing loft. We stayed 2 nights but wished we had more time. We hiked, explored the town, and relaxed in the house. It's a truly magical place with the most warm and welcoming host!
Séjour de 2 nuits en janvier 2019

10/10 Excellent

Sonny Z.

Beautiful cabin with everything you need .

We stayed here over New Years and I would definetly recommend this place to all my friends . It’s close to the town but tucked away so you still feel like your in the woods. This cabin is not only cool it is very comfy . We were shocked at how stocked the cabin was with everything you can think of . The combination between the mid century feel and classic antiques makes you feel like your in some kind of Hollywood get away . I am a bit of a sticker when it comes to cleanliness, especially in a rental, and I have to say the Dome is spotless and very well kept . Ida was quick to respond and answered all of my question from the first initial email . She even brought us party bobbers and hats to bring in the new year right . The first morning we had freshly squeezed orange juice and homemade banana bread that Ida left for us as a treat . The best part of the whole trip was we got some snow and that made the experience that much better . We are hoping to go back next year . If you are looking a cabin with a great layout, cozy and comfy, with everything you need this is the place . ❤️
Séjour de 3 nuits en décembre 2018

10/10 Excellent

SHARON B.

Best stocked kitchen.

A geodesic dome is a very interesting house. We found any sound from one level to the other travelled clearly. A street is nearby so on the deck there is traffic noise. Otherwise we loved it. We could easily walk to town. Ida is not intrusive but available when needed. Thanks, Ida for the wine and delicious banana bread.
Séjour de 3 nuits en décembre 2018

10/10 Excellent

Timothy A.

Terrific!

Had a wonderful time at this place, Ida was a great host and made sure everything was taken care of for us upon arrival, with greetings and treats as others have specified. Had some great hiking in the area and general repose from urban life, and thoroughly enjoyed the house which was very quiet, comfortable, and included everything that we needed. Nice views and easy to get to town as well.
Séjour de 3 nuits en novembre 2018

10/10 Excellent

fengchun f.

Excellent Dome I have ever stayed.

We really have a wonderful time in your dome, it is clean and comfortable, my wife likes the piano very much, and I took a lot of pictures of squirrels and blue jays. The manager Winnie is very kind and helpful, we will be back again, thank you Ida.

10/10 Excellent

Sarina P.

Wonderful Stay in the Dome House!

We had an absolutely wonderful stay in the Dome house. Ida was incredibly helpful. The house was super comfortable and clean and set in a beautiful convenient location. Thank you Ida! :-)
Séjour de 2 nuits en mars 2018

10/10 Excellent

Chuck F., Columbia, Missouri

Lots of comfy space, we were 5 adults and 4 FYI old child, nice easy walk to townstorrs(7-8 min)

Ida was friendly and welcoming, a geodesic dome is very interesting to experience.
Séjour de 2 nuits en février 2018

Qui vous reçoit ?

Vous êtes reçu par Ida

Image de profil de l’hôte
I was lucky enough to grow up in Idyllwild in the house next door to this one! After visiting Idyllwild for several years we moved up the mountain in 1969. A severe snow storm scared my parents away, but not for long! We moved back to Idyllwild in 1976 have called it home ever since.

Pourquoi avoir choisi cet hébergement ?

A wonderful couple bought the lot next to my childhood home and Ray built his dream... A Geodesic dome! Ray and Marge were the best neighbors anyone could ever have. Ray had a dream of building a Geodesic dome home and this it! It is my pleasure to be able to share Ray's dream with you!

Quels sont les atouts de cet hébergement ?

This R. Bunkminster Fuller inspired, Mid-Century Modern Geodesic Dome Cabin is unique. From the eclectic furnishings, to the pink carpet Marge loved, and the acoustics, this is a one of kind experience. The deck had amazing sunset views and wildlife can often be seen using the game trail behind the house.

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Anglais
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